Tags: chickens

Buy these great books! Published by me at Norton Creek Press.


Fresh-Air Poultry Houses

by Prince T. Woods
More Information

Success With Baby Chicks

by Robert Plamondon
More Information

One Survivor

by Robert Plamondon
More Information

Ten Acres Enough

by Edmund Morris
More Information

Tom Slade, Boy Scout

by Percy K. Fitzhugh
More Information

Hen Lights At Last

by Robert

Karen has been after me to set up hen lights this year, after a hiatus of several years. Hens normally don't like to lay except when the day length is increasing or reasonably long or both, and neither holds true at the end of the year. Lights have been used since the 1880s to deal with this.

There's a lot of superstition about hen lights, ranging from the idea that it somehow uses up the hens, to the idea that hens are kept under brilliant 24-hour light as a form of torture.

Lights may have been hard on the hens in the 1880s, which was before anyone knew anything about nutrition, and flocks were generally malnourished during the winter. But the bright-light idea is just silly. Hens respond to very low levels of light, and electricity costs money. Light stimulation works at levels so dim that the hens can't see to move around. The real problem with traditional hen lights is that they're so dim that it's hard for the farmer to work by them. The hens have no difficulty sleeping with the lights on.

The main purpose of the lights is to shift some of the egg laying out of the spring and into the fall and winter. At best, it increases overall egg production by 15%, which is welcome but isn't really the point. The point is to get the kind of steady, year-round production that occurs naturally in the tropics, but not in regions as far north as I am. I'm at 45 degrees latitude, and daylight lasts only eight hours on Christmas week.

My lighting system is distinctly retro. Because I use portable pasture houses, the main feature of my lighting system is a thousand feet of outdoor extension cord going from house to house. I use a single 40-watt incandescent bulb per house. The whole thing is on a timer set to remain on from 6 AM to 8 PM, which is in series with a dusk-to-dawn sensor to turn the lights off when it's light out. This gives the hens 14 hours of light per day, which is the traditional amount to use. Traditionally, lights are used between September 1 and March 31. I'm off to a very late start.

I will post pictures later, after everything's up and running.

No feedback yet

It's Not Too Late For Fall Brooding

by Robert

Fall brooding is at least as easy as spring brooding, and maybe easier. The weather is usually drier. The season is winding down, so there are fewer demands on your time. And there's plenty of time for the chickens to become fully feathered and completely winter-hardy before the nasty weather sets in.

Pullet chicks brooded in October will be in full lay by April.

Mostly, fall brooding is just like spring brooding. If you've been brooding all summer long, you'll need to drop your warm-weather habits and remember how you did things in early spring.

Some tips:

  • Many hatcheries hatch year-round, but the off-season selection is smaller: mostly commercial strains. That's okay. Buy your high-producing hybrids in the fall, and your exotic breeds in the spring.
  • When in doubt, buy from Privett Hatchery in Portales, NM. I buy all my chicks there. Mostly Red Sex-Links, but their Barred Rocks are very nice birds.
  • Take a good look at your brooder before the chicks arrive. If you're using heat lamps, always use two or more, never just one. You can get heat lamps as small as 100W, or you can use floodlight bulbs instead of heat lamps, so you can use more bulbs without using more electricity. (I've stopped using 250w bulbs. Too hot. Two 125w heat lamps or 150w floodlights are better.)
  • Remember to use a brooder guard this time, even if it was too hot in the summer.
  • Beware of rats. Fall is a good time to replenish your bait stations (I like the big weatherproof Eaton Rat Fortress bait stations). Yes, I know poison isn't nice, but having rats eat your baby chicks is far worse.
  • Have a plan for dealing with the chicks when they get big. Don't assume that you'll magically come up with a winter henhouse for a group of chicks once they outgrow the brooder house. Winter construction projects need advance planning. At a minimum, plan to keep the chicks in the brooder house, and allow two square feet per chick.
  • If you need to bould a new henhouse for your new flock, read Fresh-Air Poultry Houses, the only book that gets the basics of chicken-house construction right.
  • If the chicks are going to be confined most of the winter, buy a non-cannibalistic strain of chicken. Crowding tends to bring on outbreaks of cannibalism, while free range tends to cure them -- but range often isn't available in the winter unless you're in a mild or hot climate.
  • Last but not least, buy a copy of my book, Success With Baby Chicks, which goes into all the considerations very thoroughly.



All of which makes a long and slightly intimidating list, but when you do things by the numbers, your fall brooding will go like clockwork. Try it and see!

2 comments

"brooder guard " ??????

what did you mean by brooder guard.....I as also curious about protecting the chicks from direct touching the lamps ?...is it safe for them ?

Thanks,
Fely-Philippines
10/13/09 @ 16:12
Comment from: Debbie Galle [Visitor] Email · http://www.LifeIsGoodFarm.com
*****
I am really glad to see your post about fall chicks. I am getting a couple more batches soon. I didn't know about the smaller lights. Thanks for enlightening me!

My very first chicks came on Oct 1, 2008. I didn't know any different. I wanted what I wanted and just did it after reading your "Success with Baby Chicks" book and "The Dollar Hen". I got 200 that month. They all did great! Since then, I have raised over 600 more. I really enjoy the fall chicks the best.

I can't wait for the farming season to slow down a bit so I can read more of your books! I study something about chickens, turkeys, or other farm related EVERY day, but I want to read a whole book.

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us!
10/13/09 @ 17:24

How To Build a Better Brooder House

by Robert

We have one nice brooder house (the milk house next to our old dairy barn) and two horrible old ones that are supposed to be pasture houses, but were pressed into service more or less at random.

We're replacing the two horrible old houses with one big new one, building it on a pair of concrete slabs that have been here for decades (which, oddly, touch each other but are not at the same level.) Here are a couple of pictures of the brooder house under construction:

You can see the horrible old brooder houses in the background of the second picture.

Features of interest:

  • We're using three courses of concrete blocks to make the house rat-proof and rot-proof, even with more than a foot of deep litter on the floor. This is essential. Not that we have a rat problem all the time, but even "once in a while" is way too often.
  • We found a four-foot-wide exterior door, which makes it easier to get a wheelbarrow into the place.
  • The three windows wouldn't provide anywhere near enough ventilation for a henhouse, but this is used solely as a brooder house, with the chicks removed to pasture houses once they no longer need heat. Smaller openings are adequate. (See Fresh-Air Poultry Houses for a complete treatment of this topic.
  • A brooder house can be designed so it can be used later as a shed or studio or whatever kind of outbuilding strikes your fancy. In this case, the two-level floor would be a bit of a nuisance, but that could be fixed with more concrete.
  • It's as close to our house as we can reasonably make it. It's good to be able to hear a commotion in the brooder house without going all the way out to the back forty.
  • We'll be insulating the roof. This isn't strictly necessary in a well-ventilated brooder house, but is a nice touch.

[Here's a brooder house update, showing the house in a nearly-finished state and giving some more helpful hints.]

1 comment

Comment from: Carolyn Sandler [Visitor] Email
*****
I love this site - every month very usable information even for those of us who have a backyard farm in town!
09/30/09 @ 09:13

More about simple electric fences for chickens

by Robert

In a recent post about electric fencing, I talked about one- and two-wire electric poultry fences, but not how to go about making or using them.

Plus, I found a funny video that features a simple electric fence (though with a high wire for horses rather than a low one for chickens).

Benefits of One-Wire Electric Fences

  • You can step over them -- after all, they're just a single wire five inches off the ground -- no gates required!
  • You can drive right over the fencewire without turning the fence off. The wire will spring back.
  • If a predator gets inside the fence, the chickens can't be cornered by a one- or two-wire fence: they pop right through. Usually this means that the flock scatters and the predator kills only one. With a conventional fence, the chickens can't get away, and predators keep killing until they run out of targets. That's a tragedy waiting to happen.
  • If a chicken ends up outside the fence, it will eventually work up the nerve to cross the fence to get home. Regular fencing leaves the chickens stranded outside.

One-Wire Electric Fences: Materials

  • A fence charging unit. I use AC-powered units from Parmak. The bigger, the better. Chicken fencing shorts out easily against molehills and growing grass, so you need a lot of zap.
  • Step-in fence posts. These are plastic fenceposts with an iron spike at the bottom. As the name implies, there's a little step on them so you can plant them in the ground with your foot. Get one for every 20-30 feet of fenceline.
  • Aluminum fence wire. Aluminum fence wire is the good stuff. It stays bright and shiny forever, so the chickens (and other critters) can see it easily and avoid it. Galvanized wire becomes dull and invisible over time. Polywire sags too much for low-wire fences and is annoying to work with.
  • Insulators to carry the zap from charger to fence. It's convenient to put the charger in a barn or shed and then run the high-voltage wire along a fenceline. At gates, some people use heavily insulated wire buried slightly underground, but I prefer to jump the fence on ten-foot poles (rot-resistant two-by-fours are okay). Use insulators anywhere the wire touches something.
  • That's about it. I used to use metal T-posts at the corners, but I don't do that anymore. Lay out the wire around the perimeter of your fenced area, and add fenceposts. Tension the wire by moving the fenceposts in or out until the wire goes tight. The wire should be 4-6 inches off the ground. A second wire at about 10 inches is a nice touch but isn't absolutely necessary. The fence works best if you enclose a large area and keep the chicken houses some distances away from it. My fence encloses several acres. If you want to fence chickens tightly, you need something more substantial.

2 comments

Comment from: richard gazda [Visitor] · http://Electric-fence.com
*****
Please visit my web site. I have everything that your readers need to construct an electic fence.

Okay if I link your blog to my web site?

If you mention my web site in your blog I'll give you and your readers 10% discount on the entire line.
09/10/09 @ 19:03
Comment from: Buster's Chickens [Visitor] · http://www.busterschickens.com
*****
that was a funny video. i think the accent made it even better. LOL
10/06/09 @ 12:15

Electric Fencing: Simpler is Better

by Robert

Electric fencing has been around a long time, and has been used with chickens since at least 1960. The methods used then still work today.

The earliest mention I've seen of electric fencing with chickens was in a 1960 issue of "Egg Producer" magazine. The electric fence consisted of a single strand of wire 4-5" off the ground. That's it! This single low wire was enough to hold in the hens and discourage predators. Sometimes they added a second wire at 8-10" off the ground, but it was mostly just for show.

I've tried it, and it works! And I got independent verification by stumbling across a site that talked about keeping raccoons out of your sweet corn. Same deal.

I once watched a coyote chase a hen that was outside the fence, but come to an abrupt halt when the hen raced past the two wires. The coyote stopped so fast I almost expected to hear tire squeal! Clearly the fence intimidated it to the point where even the prospect of a certain meal didn't tempt it.

I cover this more fully in a follow-up post about electric fencing.

I also have an Electric Fencing FAQ with more details.

5 comments

Comment from: Karen B [Visitor]
*****
I just put a 3-D electric fence (as shown in the Premier fencing catalog) around my garden to keep the deer out, and my dog refuses to go under the lines even though they are higher than her back. Apparently she touched it once when I wasn't looking :-)
09/02/09 @ 19:47
Comment from: JenK [Visitor]
I bought electronet after we lost half our flock to a grey fox. He started coming several times a day, once at 4pm right to the front door! I don't like that the birds cannot freely roam the yard and flower beds like they used to, but it has been 2 months and I have not lost a bird. The netting is easy to set up, easy to move, and works to keep the dogs out as well as the birds in.
09/09/09 @ 05:27
Comment from: Chris [Visitor] Email
*****
How would I go about making one of these single wire fences? Or where would I buy one?
09/10/09 @ 07:49
Comment from: Robert [Member] · http://www.plamondon.com
See my Sept 10 posting for more information on these topics. Good luck!
09/10/09 @ 08:50
Comment from: clyde [Visitor]
*****
i've been using a double strand of electric wire as robert suggests for six months now.

the area i enclose is approximately 100 X 70 feet althought the chickens (hens) are only using about half the space. I live in the illinois country side with coyotes, hawks, coon, and foxes and havn't lost a chicken to a predator yet.

the fence does an excellent job keeping the birds confined. while a bird occasionallly hops the top wire, it always finds its way back in because it doesn't want to stray from the flock.

the cost is a fraction of what traditional fencing would have been.
09/24/09 @ 15:31

Feeding Random Stuff to Chickens

by Robert

Okay, so someone has given you some exotic ingredient you've never heard of, like okra tofu, or banana seeds, or worm legs. Should you feed it to the chickens, and, if so, how?

The general rule for feeding miscellaneous stuff to chickens is to feed it in a separate feeder, while continuing to give them all the ordinary chicken feed they want. The chickens are pretty bored with the same old chicken feed and are sure to take an interest in anything new. They'll eat as much as they want.

The trick is to avoid trying to make them eat more. Chickens are quite good at figuring out whether feed is good or bad, and how much is good for them. In fact, they're better than you. So never starve them in order to make them finish off their yummy dish of politician's hearts. Just take away what they don't eat.

Try to feed them only what they'll clean up in a short time -- 20 minutes is traditional. In particular, don't let things that are capable of spoiling sit out to grow bacteria and mold, or attract flies and rats. The refrigerator is your friend. Use it to store the excess, rather than setting out too much.

You can also do it the hard way by looking up the foodstuff in question in a poultry nutrition reference. My favorite is Feeding Poultry by F. G. Heuser, which is one of the old poultry books that I brought back into print. It doesn't have an entry for politician's hearts, but it does list some pretty bizarre stuff, like whale meal (page 170) or silkworm chrysalis flour (page 173). The mind boggles. But you'll still want to use the "try it and see" technique with a new ingredient.

1 comment

Comment from: Nobis77 [Visitor]
****-
Just found your site/blog yesterday, and love both.

..Been trying to learn re/invent the micro-farm foraged-flock wheel and your site's been a breakthrough.
Hope you don't mind weird/frequent questions. Cheers.
05/18/09 @ 15:24

Oystershell

by Robert

One thing that amazes me is how fast hens go through oystershell, even if you're feeding them a complete ration that theoretically has enough calcium in it. This is probably a good sign, meaning that they are getting some low-calcium nutrition off my pasture and eating less chicken feed.

They had run out of oystershell, and when I took a bucketful out to them today, they fought over it.

That's the thing about nutrition -- it's hard to tell what the chickens lack. You short them on something, and they'll be less productive, but you can't tell by looking.

I recommend providing hens oystershell 24/7, regardless of what else you're feeding them.

No feedback yet

Organic vs. Antibiotics

by Robert

My cold turned into a sinus infection, so I went to my favorite doctor to cadge come antibiotics (Dr. Foley at Philomath Family Medicine, a clinic started by hippie doctors in the Seventies, and still a laid-back and mellow place). Given my chronic sinus conditions, I do all the usual stuff, with an air filter in my office and saline nasal rinses, but sometimes the bacteria get the upper hand anyway. When this happens, it's time to see the doctor and get some drugs. Most people do this, even people who love the idea of "natural remedies."

(And why isn't penicillin considered to be a natural remedy? It's harvested directly from the penicillium mold.)

It saddens me that so many people don't use the same approach with their livestock. The use of antibiotics sullies their political correctness and organic status, so people drag their feet and let their animals suffer before breaking out the drugs. I don't think they have their priorities straight.

6 comments

Comment from: Lee [Visitor] · http://www.farmfolly.com
Maybe they don't, but neither do the large beef producers who constantly feed antibiotics to keep corn-induced acidosis in check and for the side effects of increased growth rate. Overuse of drugs is quickly destroying the viability of these medications both for humans and sick animals.

We will not be feeding our livestock a medicated ration, but if something gets seriously sick I see no trouble in administering appropriate medication. For a commercial farm, this means loss of organic status for that animal and a corresponding hit on their profit. An obvious incentive to do nothing.

Nobody ever said government regulation is a substitute for common sense. :)
04/01/09 @ 12:02
Comment from: Robert [Member] · http://www.plamondon.com
As long as consumers insist on buying bargain-basement beef, there will be producers producing it. Feedlots are necessary if you're going to produce low-cost beef for cheapskates, and when you do that level of crowding, the need for constant preventative medication is only to be expected.

I don't see any reason to be more annoyed at producers who make things for cheapskates than at the cheapskates themselves.

As for antibiotic tolerance, I don't believe it. Penicillin has been grotesquely overused in agriculture for sixty years now, and is still the drug of choice for many human diseases. The same goes for the second generation of antibiotics, such as tetracycline, which have been grotesquely overused in agriculture for fifty years.

A while ago I read that all antibiotic-resistant strains of human diseases with known origins had their start in hospitals, not farms. So the whole antibiotic thing is just another superstition: a boogeyman that people use to scare us.

Not that I have any objection to designating particularly useful new antibiotics as "human-only," just in case. But, outside the medical profession, it doesn't belong on anyone's top 100 list of things to worry about.
04/01/09 @ 12:39
Comment from: EJ [Visitor]
Our Pigs, Our Food, Our Health

The late Tom Anderson, the family doctor in this little farm town in northwestern Indiana, at first was puzzled, then frightened.

He began seeing strange rashes on his patients, starting more than a year ago. They began as innocuous bumps — “pimples from hell,” he called them — and quickly became lesions as big as saucers, fiery red and agonizing to touch.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/12/opinion/12kristof.html


"A joint report by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE), and the World Health Organization (WHO) found that the use of antibiotics in humans and animals places individuals at increased risk for infection, higher numbers of treatment failures, and increased severity of illness."
http://www.saveantibiotics.org/ourwork.html

04/02/09 @ 09:56
Comment from: Robert [Member] · http://www.plamondon.com
Good catch. I stand corrected. I still think that all the dinosaur-age antibiotics like penicillin and tetracycline have been overused for so long that there's little point to moderating their use now You can't put that genie back into the bottle. We should save a bunch of the promising new antibiotics for human-only use, as I said before, rather than using every single antibiotic for both veterinary and human use.
04/02/09 @ 11:49
Comment from: Lee [Visitor] · http://farmfolly.com
I did a bit of follow-up research on this as well to check if my opinion was being shaped by anti-establishment literature with poor references. Seems that most studies and bans on excessive antibiotic use in animals have been inconclusive, but a number of medical organisations in the U.S. are now calling for elimination of non-treatment usage.

The FDA did ban the use of fluoroquinolone in poultry after links were shown between resistant strains of Campylobacter bacteria infecting humans and the drug's use in agriculture.

The boogeyman, "buy or die" advertising, is used both by the media and businessmen. Just like the mom watching TV who then goes out to buy toxins to pour down her toilet least Johnny play in the toilet with all those awful germs living there (apparently one has to do this after each use), how many farmers are constantly medicating their livestock because the agricultural journal warns of massive loss rates if they do otherwise?

I get more cynical as I get older, but I question most the motives of those who stand to make the most profit.
04/05/09 @ 00:58
Comment from: Robert [Member] · http://www.plamondon.com
Well, that's just the thing. Everybody lies. The folks who make Lysol overrate the danger of infection. The alternative food movement claims that their food is good but everyone else's is toxic. The government makes equally wild claims, and backs them up with guns. They're all lying and more or less interchangeable weasels, and I'm surprised that anybody pays any attention to any of them.

The thing that bugs me about antibiotics is that no one seems to care about the livestock. They stopped using preventative antibiotics in Europe, which meant the number of livestock infections skyrocketed, and they had to use way more therapeutic antibiotics. Net change: there's still lots of antibiotic use, but the livestock suffer more. I hate that.

If you want to reduce antibiotic usage, you need to reduce crowding. This increases costs. Many people are cheapskates and won't pay a dime for superior anything. This is a democracy, so cheapskates are a powerful force.

This is not an easy problem to solve, and most people who try to address it don't care about the practical stuff. They're not farmers, they're consumers who think that if they clap their hands and say, "I believe in fairies," Tinkerbelle will come back to life, when what she really needs is oxygen, an IV, and her stomach pumped.

But the whole problem changes completely if you ignore the issue of what society ought to do and focus on what you can accomplish yourself. Raising your own livestock is certainly one answer to the livestock question. The other thing that works very well is to ask around -- local reputations are very powerful and are rarely wrong. Find out who the best supplier is, and settle for the best. It's hard to do better than that unless you go into business for yourself, and have a passion for it.

04/05/09 @ 07:53

Feeding Chickens, Cafeteria-Style

by Robert

Back before people had nutritional science figured out, the key to success was to let livestock (and people) pick and choose from a wide variety of foodstuffs. Confined animals (and people) fared poorly. Sailors suffered from scurvy at sea, and people in institutions suffered from pellagra, but the same people never had these problems when given a little freedom, even though they knew nothing about nutrition. They just listened to their cravings.

Nutritional science means that you can get away with giving livestock (and people) a balanced diet without any food choices, but that doesn't mean it's always the right thing to do.

The most time-honored method of feeding chickens a balanced diet is cafeteria-style feeding. The original method included "chicken mash" (a mix of grains, steamed beef scrap, and other ingredients) in one trough, grain in another trough, oyster shell in a third, and pasture or hand-fed green feed on the side. The chickens were left to figure out how much of each ingredient to eat. This works quite well.

You can take advantage of the fact that the chickens won't starve in the midst of plenty in the following way: always provide a feeder full of a quality, balanced chicken feed, and offer anything else you've got on the side. If the chickens like the side offering, great. If they don't, they'll just ignore it and eat the balanced ration. This method leverages the fact that the chickens are better judges of chicken feed than we are. Practically the only way to poison or starve your chickens is to force them to eat an inappropriate feed by offering them nothing else. If you give them at least one decent alternative, they'll be okay.

I feed a high-protein layer ration in one feeder and whatever grain is cheapest in another. I feed a second grain as scratch feed, scattering it in the grass. Hand-feeding keeps the hens friendly. Oyster shell goes into yet another feeder. Grain is usually cheaper than a balanced ration, so you can save a little money by feeding it on the side.

For some reason, lots of people don't like the idea of separate feeders, and want to mix everything up. Don't do that. It wastes your time and annoys the chickens. Other people prefer superstition to science, and go out of their way to find a hippie-dippy feed formula, or feed nothing but grain. Don't do that, either. When humans adopt ludicrous diets, they minimize the damage they do to themselves through the miracle of cheating. Your livestock have no such option, so their diets need to live up to a higher standard than ours.

So now you know the secret: a feeder full of high-quality chicken feed gives you the freedom to try anything else on the side and see what happens.

1 comment

Comment from: DennisP [Visitor]
****-
Thanks for the comment on chicken feed. I don't think I've seen that in any chicken book. I'm going to get some chickens this spring for the first time ever. Looking forward to it, expect to have fun with them while working my gardens.
03/21/09 @ 13:54

Moving the Portable Houses

by Robert

I like portable chicken houses. My henhouses are mostly simple little 8x8-foot houses that I move with a tractor. I don't put litter on the floor. The chickens don't spend much time on the floor anyway: they use the roosts.

I don't shovel manure, either. When the manure starts getting to be a bit much, I don't remove the manure from the houses, I remove the houses from the manure. I hook up a house to my tractor with a handy chain and drag it to a fresh patch of ground. Then I come back and use the rear scraper blade on my tractor to spread the manure over a long swath of grass. The grass soaks up the manure greedily.

We shuffled our houses around on Friday afternoon. Took about an hour.

For pastured broilers, we use lighter houses that are moved by hand, because the broilers are kept inside the houses at all times (broilers are so young and dumb that they don't know to come in out of the rain, so we keep them under a roof at all times). Hens are older and smarter, so they come and go as they please. In fact, only one of my houses has a door! They get out of the way when the tractor arrives and when their houses start to move around.

The big trick with henhouses is that, if you move them too far, the hens get confused and sleep on the ground where the house used to be. So don't move the houses too far. The first time you spring this on a group of chickens, ten or fifteen feet is plenty. Later you can move them as far as fifty feet or so.

The other trick is to move the houses as early in the day as you can manage, since that gives the chickens more time to get used to their changed landscape.

No feedback yet

1 2 >>